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Dr. Tom Shellhammer

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77 total appearances

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Science Friday
Why can I handle tequila but not rum?

There's a huge growth category in low and non-alcoholic beverages, beer, wine, and spirits.

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Science Friday
Why can I handle tequila but not rum?

The divide that you have to cross to get from a spirit to an alcoholic spirit is huge.

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Science Friday
Why can I handle tequila but not rum?

The brewers have to cross a much shorter divide.

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Science Friday
Why can I handle tequila but not rum?

It's like only 5%.

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Science Friday
Why can I handle tequila but not rum?

And so I think that's why you're seeing a lot of activity in this non-alcoholic beer space.

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Science Friday
Why can I handle tequila but not rum?

And the way that brewers are making non-alcoholic beer fall into three categories.

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Science Friday
Why can I handle tequila but not rum?

One is to take a normal fermentation and just arrest it, stop it prematurely.

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Science Friday
Why can I handle tequila but not rum?

Those are kind of first generation non-alcoholic beers.

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Science Friday
Why can I handle tequila but not rum?

They're not terribly satisfying because they taste very worty, very sweet.

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Science Friday
Why can I handle tequila but not rum?

They're kind of cloying.

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Science Friday
Why can I handle tequila but not rum?

They don't mimic a full-on alcohol beer.

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Science Friday
Why can I handle tequila but not rum?

Another approach is to use techniques where you take a full strength beer and just remove the alcohol.

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Science Friday
Why can I handle tequila but not rum?

And so you can do this by distillation or by membrane separation.

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Science Friday
Why can I handle tequila but not rum?

What happens there is that you're, in addition to pulling alcohol out, you're also pulling out a lot of these other flavors.

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Science Friday
Why can I handle tequila but not rum?

And we talked at the beginning of the show around like higher alcohols or esters or other things that will move kind of like the ethanol away from the base beer.

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Science Friday
Why can I handle tequila but not rum?

And so you get a very bland product.

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Science Friday
Why can I handle tequila but not rum?

And so in that case, brewers will do flavor add-backs that will take like these alcohol, like higher alcohol ester materials that have left and add those back to try to replace that minus the ethanol.

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Science Friday
Why can I handle tequila but not rum?

And then a third approach is to use yeast that don't ferment maltose.

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Science Friday
Why can I handle tequila but not rum?

So the main sugar in a brewery mash is maltose.

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Science Friday
Why can I handle tequila but not rum?

There's a little bit of glucose, a tiny bit of fructose, but mainly maltose from a fermentability perspective and something called maltotriose.

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