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Dr. Trisha Pasricha

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The Mel Robbins Podcast
The Gut Health Episode: Harvard Doctor Reveals What’s Normal (and What’s Not)

That's the vagus nerve.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
The Gut Health Episode: Harvard Doctor Reveals What’s Normal (and What’s Not)

Yeah.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
The Gut Health Episode: Harvard Doctor Reveals What’s Normal (and What’s Not)

We've known that the gut and the brain have been in communications for over a century.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
The Gut Health Episode: Harvard Doctor Reveals What’s Normal (and What’s Not)

If you go back to the 1890s, 1890s, you'll see in doctor's journals, they were talking about how it seemed like things like emotional stress seemed to cause this response of all places inside the gut.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
The Gut Health Episode: Harvard Doctor Reveals What’s Normal (and What’s Not)

And there was a famous set of experiments that was done in the 1950s at Cornell.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
The Gut Health Episode: Harvard Doctor Reveals What’s Normal (and What’s Not)

And the researchers had participants

The Mel Robbins Podcast
The Gut Health Episode: Harvard Doctor Reveals What’s Normal (and What’s Not)

talk about really stressful emotional experiences.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
The Gut Health Episode: Harvard Doctor Reveals What’s Normal (and What’s Not)

So they would talk about an argument they had with their spouse or the financial troubles they were having.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
The Gut Health Episode: Harvard Doctor Reveals What’s Normal (and What’s Not)

And while they were discussing these psychologically stressful events, the researchers used a prototype of a colonoscope.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
The Gut Health Episode: Harvard Doctor Reveals What’s Normal (and What’s Not)

So they looked directly at the colon from the inside.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
The Gut Health Episode: Harvard Doctor Reveals What’s Normal (and What’s Not)

And as these people were talking, they would see the colon start to spasm and squeeze and move.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
The Gut Health Episode: Harvard Doctor Reveals What’s Normal (and What’s Not)

And these people would experience stomach cramps and gut cramps.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
The Gut Health Episode: Harvard Doctor Reveals What’s Normal (and What’s Not)

And I think that tracks with what

The Mel Robbins Podcast
The Gut Health Episode: Harvard Doctor Reveals What’s Normal (and What’s Not)

Certainly what I experienced in real life, if I'm having an argument with my husband, which doesn't happen that often, but if I'm having that, I sometimes feel cramps in my stomach.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
The Gut Health Episode: Harvard Doctor Reveals What’s Normal (and What’s Not)

It's like a very unpleasant feeling.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
The Gut Health Episode: Harvard Doctor Reveals What’s Normal (and What’s Not)

The problem is that for several decades, that was the way we framed the gut-brain connection entirely.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
The Gut Health Episode: Harvard Doctor Reveals What’s Normal (and What’s Not)

We thought about that gut-brain connection as the brain talking down to the gut.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
The Gut Health Episode: Harvard Doctor Reveals What’s Normal (and What’s Not)

It wasn't until the 1980s, 1990s, that my field, which is neurogastroenterology, the study of the gut-brain connection, really crystallized.

The Mel Robbins Podcast
The Gut Health Episode: Harvard Doctor Reveals What’s Normal (and What’s Not)

And that's when people said, wait a minute, this vagus nerve, this large nerve that's the conduit between the brain in the head and the brain in the gut,

The Mel Robbins Podcast
The Gut Health Episode: Harvard Doctor Reveals What’s Normal (and What’s Not)

Most of the signals, 80% of those signals, they're not going from the brain in the head down to the gut.