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Dr. Trisha Pasricha

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1962 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

The Mel Robbins Podcast
The Gut Health Episode: Harvard Doctor Reveals What’s Normal (and What’s Not)

And there was a famous set of experiments that was done in the 1950s at Cornell.

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The Mel Robbins Podcast
The Gut Health Episode: Harvard Doctor Reveals What’s Normal (and What’s Not)

And the researchers had participants

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The Mel Robbins Podcast
The Gut Health Episode: Harvard Doctor Reveals What’s Normal (and What’s Not)

talk about really stressful emotional experiences.

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The Mel Robbins Podcast
The Gut Health Episode: Harvard Doctor Reveals What’s Normal (and What’s Not)

So they would talk about an argument they had with their spouse or the financial troubles they were having.

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The Mel Robbins Podcast
The Gut Health Episode: Harvard Doctor Reveals What’s Normal (and What’s Not)

And while they were discussing these psychologically stressful events, the researchers used a prototype of a colonoscope.

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The Mel Robbins Podcast
The Gut Health Episode: Harvard Doctor Reveals What’s Normal (and What’s Not)

So they looked directly at the colon from the inside.

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The Mel Robbins Podcast
The Gut Health Episode: Harvard Doctor Reveals What’s Normal (and What’s Not)

And as these people were talking, they would see the colon start to spasm and squeeze and move.

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The Mel Robbins Podcast
The Gut Health Episode: Harvard Doctor Reveals What’s Normal (and What’s Not)

And these people would experience stomach cramps and gut cramps.

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The Mel Robbins Podcast
The Gut Health Episode: Harvard Doctor Reveals What’s Normal (and What’s Not)

And I think that tracks with what

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The Mel Robbins Podcast
The Gut Health Episode: Harvard Doctor Reveals What’s Normal (and What’s Not)

Certainly what I experienced in real life, if I'm having an argument with my husband, which doesn't happen that often, but if I'm having that, I sometimes feel cramps in my stomach.

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The Mel Robbins Podcast
The Gut Health Episode: Harvard Doctor Reveals What’s Normal (and What’s Not)

It's like a very unpleasant feeling.

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The Mel Robbins Podcast
The Gut Health Episode: Harvard Doctor Reveals What’s Normal (and What’s Not)

The problem is that for several decades, that was the way we framed the gut-brain connection entirely.

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The Mel Robbins Podcast
The Gut Health Episode: Harvard Doctor Reveals What’s Normal (and What’s Not)

We thought about that gut-brain connection as the brain talking down to the gut.

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The Mel Robbins Podcast
The Gut Health Episode: Harvard Doctor Reveals What’s Normal (and What’s Not)

It wasn't until the 1980s, 1990s, that my field, which is neurogastroenterology, the study of the gut-brain connection, really crystallized.

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The Mel Robbins Podcast
The Gut Health Episode: Harvard Doctor Reveals What’s Normal (and What’s Not)

And that's when people said, wait a minute, this vagus nerve, this large nerve that's the conduit between the brain in the head and the brain in the gut,

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The Mel Robbins Podcast
The Gut Health Episode: Harvard Doctor Reveals What’s Normal (and What’s Not)

Most of the signals, 80% of those signals, they're not going from the brain in the head down to the gut.

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The Mel Robbins Podcast
The Gut Health Episode: Harvard Doctor Reveals What’s Normal (and What’s Not)

They're going from the gut to the brain.

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The Mel Robbins Podcast
The Gut Health Episode: Harvard Doctor Reveals What’s Normal (and What’s Not)

So if most of the communication on the vagus nerve is happening from the gut to the brain, it completely flipped the script.

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The Mel Robbins Podcast
The Gut Health Episode: Harvard Doctor Reveals What’s Normal (and What’s Not)

It makes me wonder, and this is what researchers then started to ask, what if we had it backwards?

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The Mel Robbins Podcast
The Gut Health Episode: Harvard Doctor Reveals What’s Normal (and What’s Not)

What if it is gut dysfunction that's responsible for our anxiety?

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