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Dr. Victor Carrión

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Huberman Lab
How to Heal From Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) | Dr. Victor Carrión

So in that inverted U-shaped curve, there's that optimal point where your health, your happiness, your performance, everything is better because of the stress you've been having. But after that optimal point, all of those outcomes, health, performance, start to decline. Happiness starts to decline. And it is in that second part of the curve where we find traumatic stress.

Huberman Lab
How to Heal From Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) | Dr. Victor Carrión

Traumatic stress being a type of stress that is not only something you have to cope with, but it actually puts your physical integrity in jeopardy. It's a threat. And you have to manage that. And when you experience traumatic stress, many outcomes are possible. One is that you're resilient. And we'll talk a little bit about that as well, I hope.

Huberman Lab
How to Heal From Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) | Dr. Victor Carrión

Traumatic stress being a type of stress that is not only something you have to cope with, but it actually puts your physical integrity in jeopardy. It's a threat. And you have to manage that. And when you experience traumatic stress, many outcomes are possible. One is that you're resilient. And we'll talk a little bit about that as well, I hope.

Huberman Lab
How to Heal From Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) | Dr. Victor Carrión

Traumatic stress being a type of stress that is not only something you have to cope with, but it actually puts your physical integrity in jeopardy. It's a threat. And you have to manage that. And when you experience traumatic stress, many outcomes are possible. One is that you're resilient. And we'll talk a little bit about that as well, I hope.

Huberman Lab
How to Heal From Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) | Dr. Victor Carrión

But another one is that you may develop symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder. And the reason that I didn't anchor on the diagnosis right away from the outset, and I was interested in studying stressors, is because many kids, we were seeing many kids that had symptoms of PTSD without having the diagnosis. that were demonstrating functional impairment. So they were not doing well in school.

Huberman Lab
How to Heal From Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) | Dr. Victor Carrión

But another one is that you may develop symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder. And the reason that I didn't anchor on the diagnosis right away from the outset, and I was interested in studying stressors, is because many kids, we were seeing many kids that had symptoms of PTSD without having the diagnosis. that were demonstrating functional impairment. So they were not doing well in school.

Huberman Lab
How to Heal From Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) | Dr. Victor Carrión

But another one is that you may develop symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder. And the reason that I didn't anchor on the diagnosis right away from the outset, and I was interested in studying stressors, is because many kids, we were seeing many kids that had symptoms of PTSD without having the diagnosis. that were demonstrating functional impairment. So they were not doing well in school.

Huberman Lab
How to Heal From Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) | Dr. Victor Carrión

They were not doing well with their relationships. They were experiencing distress. So their function was affected, yet they didn't have the diagnosis. So the diagnosis is good in that it's there, and it is a behavioral definition that we can anchor in. But there's more nuance to that. So then that shows the whole spectrum.

Huberman Lab
How to Heal From Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) | Dr. Victor Carrión

They were not doing well with their relationships. They were experiencing distress. So their function was affected, yet they didn't have the diagnosis. So the diagnosis is good in that it's there, and it is a behavioral definition that we can anchor in. But there's more nuance to that. So then that shows the whole spectrum.

Huberman Lab
How to Heal From Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) | Dr. Victor Carrión

They were not doing well with their relationships. They were experiencing distress. So their function was affected, yet they didn't have the diagnosis. So the diagnosis is good in that it's there, and it is a behavioral definition that we can anchor in. But there's more nuance to that. So then that shows the whole spectrum.

Huberman Lab
How to Heal From Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) | Dr. Victor Carrión

And of course, we can come out of PTSD, and we can go back to that optimal point. So we don't want to get rid of stress, but we just want to return to that optimal point. And treatment is available, and people can recover from PTSD, and especially kids can recover from PTSD.

Huberman Lab
How to Heal From Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) | Dr. Victor Carrión

And of course, we can come out of PTSD, and we can go back to that optimal point. So we don't want to get rid of stress, but we just want to return to that optimal point. And treatment is available, and people can recover from PTSD, and especially kids can recover from PTSD.

Huberman Lab
How to Heal From Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) | Dr. Victor Carrión

And of course, we can come out of PTSD, and we can go back to that optimal point. So we don't want to get rid of stress, but we just want to return to that optimal point. And treatment is available, and people can recover from PTSD, and especially kids can recover from PTSD.

Huberman Lab
How to Heal From Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) | Dr. Victor Carrión

But there's one thing that really gets in the way, and that's something that in my team we call, we have a phrase that we say PTSD feeds on avoidance. If we pretend that something didn't happen, if we pretend that it will go away, if we pretend that treatment is not necessary, then that's when it gets complicated. And it gets complicated with substance abuse.

Huberman Lab
How to Heal From Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) | Dr. Victor Carrión

But there's one thing that really gets in the way, and that's something that in my team we call, we have a phrase that we say PTSD feeds on avoidance. If we pretend that something didn't happen, if we pretend that it will go away, if we pretend that treatment is not necessary, then that's when it gets complicated. And it gets complicated with substance abuse.

Huberman Lab
How to Heal From Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) | Dr. Victor Carrión

But there's one thing that really gets in the way, and that's something that in my team we call, we have a phrase that we say PTSD feeds on avoidance. If we pretend that something didn't happen, if we pretend that it will go away, if we pretend that treatment is not necessary, then that's when it gets complicated. And it gets complicated with substance abuse.

Huberman Lab
How to Heal From Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) | Dr. Victor Carrión

It gets complicated with self-injurious behaviors. And then at that point, it becomes harder to treat.

Huberman Lab
How to Heal From Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) | Dr. Victor Carrión

It gets complicated with self-injurious behaviors. And then at that point, it becomes harder to treat.

Huberman Lab
How to Heal From Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) | Dr. Victor Carrión

It gets complicated with self-injurious behaviors. And then at that point, it becomes harder to treat.

Huberman Lab
How to Heal From Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) | Dr. Victor Carrión

It's interesting that you use the word perseverate because one of the characteristics of trauma when it affects children is that it robs them from play. Play is something that's essential in development. It's how we grow socially, emotionally, physically. But when play becomes traumatic play, it becomes non-joyful. But it becomes perseverant and repetitive.