Dr. Vin Gupta

That actually, when you do it, and you don't waver based on political headwinds and what's popular, is that people notice that, and that there is something really, really resonant with that approach.

It's on that topic.

I do want to pivot.

You're one of the nation's, again,

I can't think of somebody more that has wider reach.

But, you know, you're right.

We're on the wake of what I thought was a very transformational day yesterday for the country and the Democratic Party.

I know your day is busy.

Talk to us about this moment and what you think people are needing to hear when it comes to persuading them to vote in their own self-interest.

And I think a lot about healthcare because I feel like every 48 years, Randy,

We constantly seem to have these same, it looks slightly different based on the year, but we're talking about access, affordability, how much do your drugs cost?

And we've been having that conversation since the Lyndon Johnson administration, if not Truman, just being a history of this or a student of this, the history of health care policy.

It doesn't seem like it ever goes away.

What are we not getting right about

the message to vote in your own self-interest when it comes to specifically issues of healthcare?

Do you feel that we are in a moment, given the events of November the 4th, we're... Are you optimistic about the midterms in 2028?

Randy, you always make me feel better whenever we have a chance to chat and do shared work together.

I want to thank you, Randy Weingarten, President and CEO of the American Federation of Teachers, AFT, one of the largest labor unions in the country and author of Why Fascists Fear Teachers.

Please go out and get it.

Randy, thank you so much for joining Midas Health.