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Dr. William Marsh

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The Ancients
Britain's First Dog

There is a symbolic relationship here, which we get from the isotopes, but also there's other sort of

The Ancients
Britain's First Dog

post-mortem relationship you see between the dogs at goff's cave and the humans at goff's cave as we as selena said earlier we have this post-mortem modification of human remains we also find that on the dog as well you guys are so great at teeing up what i was about to ask next so yes what happened to this dog

The Ancients
Britain's First Dog

And we actually also see very similar treatments at this Turkish site I mentioned previously.

The Ancients
Britain's First Dog

So the humans are completely different.

The Ancients
Britain's First Dog

Rather than eating their dead, they do something which in our minds is probably far more sensible.

The Ancients
Britain's First Dog

They bury their dead.

The Ancients
Britain's First Dog

But alongside these human burials, you actually find dog burials as well.

The Ancients
Britain's First Dog

So at Gough's Cave and at Pinnabashi, you've got two completely different human groups behaving very, very differently, but they appear to be treating their dogs in the same manner, same symbolic manner at each site, dependent on whichever culture they're with.

The Ancients
Britain's First Dog

And alongside this as well, so once we'd done the DNA analysis of this individual from Gough's Cave and also at Pinnabashi, it's sort of, and I hate using one of my close collaborators' phrases here, but it was essentially the Rosetta Stone

The Ancients
Britain's First Dog

It allowed us to look back at other samples for which we had very, very poor DNA preservation for and see, OK, now we have a dog from Goff's Cave.

The Ancients
Britain's First Dog

Now we have a dog from Pinnabashi.

The Ancients
Britain's First Dog

Is there anything that these data can tell us about other potential dogs in the region?

The Ancients
Britain's First Dog

And the answer was, well, we've actually been able to identify three other dogs in central Europe.

The Ancients
Britain's First Dog

And one of them in particular, from a site called Bonner Castle in Germany, was found, again, a sort of semi-skeleton, there's a mandible, there's a few long bones, but it was found alongside a burial of two individuals, dated around 15,000 years ago.

The Ancients
Britain's First Dog

And it has on its mandible,

The Ancients
Britain's First Dog

some pathologies which have seemingly been able to heal.

The Ancients
Britain's First Dog

And the only way they would have been able to heal is through care.

The Ancients
Britain's First Dog

And that care we interpret as being almost certainly given by humans.

The Ancients
Britain's First Dog

So again, it's this close interaction between humans and dogs, which we see.