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Dr. William Marsh

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The Ancients
Britain's First Dog

There's no evidence of any interaction between the humans.

The Ancients
Britain's First Dog

They're completely different.

The Ancients
Britain's First Dog

Different area, different genetically, but they have exactly the same dogs.

The Ancients
Britain's First Dog

And we were looking at how to actually... That was a big question for about a month.

The Ancients
Britain's First Dog

How on earth did they get there?

The Ancients
Britain's First Dog

What we're thinking now is that this sort of third culture, the Epigavetian, who we find in the Balkan region and Italian region, they begin to spread northwards after the Megalanians have spread.

The Ancients
Britain's First Dog

You see evidence of dogs with this group, this Epigretian group, at sites in Italy, Switzerland, and Germany.

The Ancients
Britain's First Dog

You actually see the Epigretian coming into the UK at about 14,000 years ago, 14,000, 45,000 years ago.

The Ancients
Britain's First Dog

So the Gosgabe is really the example of the last Magdalenian assemblage in the UK.

The Ancients
Britain's First Dog

And then after that, the Epigavetian ancestry and Lithic culture.

The Ancients
Britain's First Dog

And their culture spreads across the UK.

The Ancients
Britain's First Dog

And it was this expansion, which starts around 16,000 years ago, which we believe perhaps spread these dogs across the region.

The Ancients
Britain's First Dog

Because although at Goff's Cave we don't see any evidence of the Epigavitian, at Pidabasha, in the Anatolian hunter-gatherers, they show evidence of gene flow between the humans.

The Ancients
Britain's First Dog

So there is evidence of connectivity in Epigavitian culture and the Anatolian hunter-gatherer culture.

The Ancients
Britain's First Dog

Goff's Cave is a little bit more complicated, but the fact that we have Epigavitians 800 years later in the UK.

The Ancients
Britain's First Dog

makes me think that the dogs were being spread by these Epiglethians and that somehow these Magellanians got these dogs.

The Ancients
Britain's First Dog

How they did that, again, that's one for the anthropologists, but we almost certainly think that, yeah, that's our current best working hypothesis.

The Ancients
Britain's First Dog

Yeah, that is exactly the sort of information we can start to glean.

The Ancients
Britain's First Dog

And I think what is interesting is the fact that these cultures almost didn't have dogs beforehand, but they've obviously seen the utility of these dogs and then they've incorporated them into their cultural behavior.

The Ancients
Britain's First Dog

Whereas in sort of later periods, the Mesolithic, the Neolithic, when a dog moves or when a human moves, a dog moves.