Drew Hernandez

Is this a win for Trump?

Is this a loss for Trump?

Did Walsh get something?

But before we talk about the present, Mr. Walsh, I want you to tell us about the past.

So, OK, so if the point is that the only real errors here have been in certain messaging.

OK, fair enough.

That happens.

I mean, look, these are very difficult operations.

We haven't seen a massive national push for mass deportations, really, as far as I'm concerned, since the 1950s, since Operation Wetback.

You know, Obama would sometimes gloat when it was convenient that, you know, they call me the deporter in chief or whatever.

But it was really just turn aways.

He wasn't he wasn't leading full scale operations to get rid of these guys.

So I'm willing to give the administration a little grace here.

But but my question then is, OK, if it's a PR issue, then who is going to win the PR war?

Because, you know, maybe walls and the Democrats in Minnesota say, ha.

we got Bovino's skull, his scalp.

He's out of town now.

And see, Trump is talking to Tim Walz.

But then I look at the sequence of events.

Tim Walz comes out.