Drew Hernandez

But I love the fact that some, a very small number of my ancestors, came here on the Mayflower.

That makes me feel good about the country.

It makes me view the country in a certain way, makes me feel a kind of pride and ownership in the country.

If my ancestors had come on a slave ship, even if I were rich, I were a rapper, I had gold teeth and everything, and I was materially really well off, I would view the country differently.

I would have a different relationship to it.

And I think as conservatives, we say that heritage matters and tradition matters and all that.

All I'm saying is I kind of get it.

And if I were a black guy in America, that would color my view.

I think that's true.

That's a different issue, Ben.

That's not what Knowles was saying, though.

Yeah.

Aristotle means like different things.

I actually just heard that.

Noz is right.

Noz is actually, I mean, look, Noz has actually said something that makes sense and is almost profound, which I think we should all stop for a minute and just understand that a miracle is taking place in front of us.

I retire.

No, I mean, it doesn't matter whether it's rational or not.

And Ben, I completely agree that even though you have these feelings, you should be able to overcome them and understand that you've been given the gift of being born in America.

And that's a beautiful thing.