Drew Taggart

That's kind of all it is.

We're all just interacting with each other.

And that's fundamentally what business is.

It's fundamentally what relationships are.

And so if you can like put yourself in a position where people enjoy being around you and feels seen when you're with them, I think that's amazing.

And it's something we definitely struggle with as you get busier too.

I'm taking calls in like August right now.

And it kills my soul to be like, I would love to speak to you in September.

So it's just getting older and shit.

when we raise money for our fund, they get asked that question a lot.

And I always say that Chainsmokers is the sun in our solar system because it's like everything circles around that.

And if it's a really strong sun, it shines more light and creates more abundance and opportunity across Mantis and whatever, Tequila Company and other things.

Whereas like, I don't know if a strong Mantis

saves our music career, you know what I mean?

But what separated us, differentiated us early on and kind of to Drew's point is what we're trying to turn back the hands of time now is that like we did run Chainsmokers like a business.

As much as we obviously care so deeply about the music and the creative aspect of it, but it was also like, this is a really unique

opportunity that we want to make sure we're taking full advantage of.

And whether that was doing too many things, playing too many shows or whatever, really control the business.

I mean, there is not a credit card statement that I have not gone through line by line still to this day, week by week.

There's not a production budget that I haven't seen for a single show.