Dwarkesh Hirani

Are they like, are they substantive?

Are they real?

Is he like actually learning the intricacies of like, here's the, you know, here's how zero COVID has impacted this province and here's why we should whatever, whatever.

Or are they just faux?

Because if you read the announcements from the party or departments, they're just like so vapid, like typical communist speak.

How real are these meetings?

Yeah, and it's stupendous to think about.

We understand that you can tell somebody how big is China, the population, et cetera, besides the economy.

I think visiting China gives you a tangible sense of just how big.

You have provinces, each of which have as many people as a normal nation state.

Provinces which have hundreds of millions of people, 40 million people, you know, so forth.

And then one person...

will say something at the end of a meeting that determines a policy for basically like everyone.

Yeah.

For like the population of like North and South America or something.

Does he say things at the end of meetings, during his speeches, et cetera, which indicate that he actually has a good understanding of these different policy areas?

Because obviously the official speeches are very vague and –

It's always something like we will make sure that we are robustly pursuing Chinese growth while hewing to the tenets of Mao's thought.

So never anything specific or interesting.

But do we have an indication that behind closed doors he's – Well, you don't think there's anything specific or interesting.