Dwarkesh (host)

That's the basic problem.

But just to make sure I understood the feature request correctly, it's basically like you want...

a smaller copy of the genome that is only relevant to respiration sitting across the entire membrane and many copies of it sitting across the entire membrane.

I guess I'm just, it seems hard for me to... You're incredulous that this same thing will be repeated.

On like the billions of planets.

Because if there was another way to solve it, then what you would expect is that as soon as you get to the stage of

prokaryotes that have other niches that they could colonize, if only they could drive towards complexity, this would somehow be solved.

And then you'd have eukaryotes, dot, dot, dot, intelligence.

If it's the case that a significant fraction of rocky planets should have at least organics and cells and so forth,

Feels like we should be able to learn pretty soon whether this story is kind of correct, right?

Because obviously...

If that part ends up being true, and also we don't see eukaryotes elsewhere, then the whole picture is lent a lot more credence.

But like, I don't know, are we about to go to a couple moons and see if we can find some organics there and so forth?

LabelBox has this massive network of subject matter experts, who they call aligners, to help them generate data for training and evaluating frontier models.

In order to help prep for this episode, I asked LabelBox to connect me with one of their chemistry experts for a quick tutoring session.

I got to chat with Neil, who's a researcher that's currently working on chemistry ML models.

So how did the first cell division happen?

I remember him saying that the first version of division might have been membranes naturally will split the same way a bubble will split if it gets too big.

Yes.

Neil quizzed me on my understanding of redox chemistry, the same way that he interrogates models to make sure that they are developing a non-superficial understanding of all the scientific topics.