Dwarkesh Kheterpal

Speaking of politics, there's been this perception that some tech leaders have been aligning with Trump.

You and others have donated to his inaugural event and were on stage with him, and I think you settled a lawsuit which resulted in them getting $25 million.

I wonder what's going on here.

Does it feel like the cost of doing business with the administration?

What's the best way to think about this?

You've spoken out about how you've rethought some of the ways in which you engage and defer to the government in terms of moderation stuff in the past.

How are you thinking about AI governance?

Because if AI is as powerful as we think it might be, the government will want to get involved.

What is the most productive approach to take there?

And what should the government be thinking about here?

Will tariffs increase the cost of building data centers in the US and shift build-outs to Europe and Asia?

Got it.

What is your single highest leverage hour in a week?

What are you doing in that hour?

I don't know.

I mean, every week is a little bit different.

Yeah, yeah.

Or I guess you were saying earlier that recruiting people is a super high leverage thing you do.

Yeah, yeah.

What would be possible if, you know, you talked about these models being mid-level software engineers by the end of the year.