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then back to Stalin, and then more communism, and then the economy collapses again, and then Putin, and then especially if you look at the satellite states, well, they had all of this happen to them and worse, and now they're getting invaded.

Whereas you have other countries like, you know, Japan and Germany also had tragic histories, but then they recovered.

The tragedy of Russia is... Yeah, you're lucky you're not Russian.

Yeah, exactly.

I should have thought to end on a more optimistic note.

Well, you've outlined the ways in which countries can chart a better course for themselves, and that's where the optimism can come from.

That's your business, not mine.

Okay, that is an excellent note to close on.

Sarah, I want to thank you so much for doing this lecture series with us.

It has been a true education across these six from everything from individual wars to the strategic and tactical decisions, which explain them to the broader lessons for today's world.

I do interview lots of different kinds of people, but from a sort of viewer minute, average adjusted basis, I host a Sarah Payne podcast.

If you just sort by popular, Sarah Payne comes up a lot.

Otherwise, I'll see you in the next one.

Today, we are interviewing Satya Nadella.

We being me and Dylan Patel, who is founder of Semi Analysis.

Satya, welcome.

Yeah.

Thank you for giving us a tour of the new facility.

It's been really cool to see.

Absolutely.