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Dwarkesh Patel

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Dwarkesh Podcast
I’m glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

Is it to coerce and threaten and bully every single company that won't do business with the government on exactly the terms that the government demands?

Dwarkesh Podcast
I’m glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

Now, remember that the whole background of this AI conversation is that we are in a race with China.

Dwarkesh Podcast
I’m glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

But what is the reason that we want to win this race?

Dwarkesh Podcast
I’m glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

It's because we don't want the winner of the AI race to be a government which believes that there is no such thing as a truly private citizen or a private company.

Dwarkesh Podcast
I’m glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

And that if the state wants you to provide them with a service that you find morally objectionable, you are not allowed to refuse.

Dwarkesh Podcast
I’m glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

And if you do refuse, they will destroy your business.

Dwarkesh Podcast
I’m glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

Are we really racing to beat China and the CCP in AI just so we can adopt the most ghoulish parts of their system?

Dwarkesh Podcast
I’m glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

Now, people will say our government is democratically elected.

Dwarkesh Podcast
I’m glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

So it's not the same thing when they tell you what you must do.

Dwarkesh Podcast
I’m glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

But I refuse to accept this idea that if a democratically elected leader hypothetically tells you to help him do mass surveillance or violate the rights of your fellow citizens or to help him punish his political enemies, that not only is that OK, but that you have a duty to help him.

Dwarkesh Podcast
I’m glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

Honestly, a big worry I have is that mass surveillance, at least in certain forums, is already legal.

Dwarkesh Podcast
I’m glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

It is just an impractical to enforce, at least so far.

Dwarkesh Podcast
I’m glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

Under current law, you have no Fourth Amendment protection against any data that you share with a third party.

Dwarkesh Podcast
I’m glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

That includes your bank, your ISP, your phone carrier, and your email provider.

Dwarkesh Podcast
I’m glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

The government reserves the right to purchase and read this data in bulk without a warrant.

Dwarkesh Podcast
I’m glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

What's been missing is the ability to actually do anything with all this data.

Dwarkesh Podcast
I’m glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

No agency has the manpower to monitor every single camera and read every single message and cross-reference every single transaction.

Dwarkesh Podcast
I’m glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

However, that bottleneck goes away with AI.

Dwarkesh Podcast
I’m glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

There are 100 million CCTV cameras in America, and you can get pretty good open source multimodal models for 10 cents per million input tokens.

Dwarkesh Podcast
I’m glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

So if you process a frame every 10 seconds, and if each frame is, say, 1,000 tokens, then for $30 billion, you can process every single camera in America.