Dwarkesh Patel

And sorry, what was the other 99% of the DNA?

Yeah.

Awesome.

Excellent.

David, thanks for your time.

Today, I'm interviewing Rainer Pope, who is CEO of Maddox, which is a new chip startup.

Previously, he was doing TPU architecture and many other things at Google.

This is a very different format from my usual interviews.

This is going to be a Blackboard lecture.

We're going to get up in a second.

We, in fact, built this whole new studio with specifically this format in mind.

And so it's a pleasure to get to inaugurate it with you.

We're going to be talking about model architecture, ML, and for many other things.

And the reason I think it's an important topic is because once you actually understand how training and inference actually work in a cluster, as we'll see a lot of things about why AI is the way it is, why AI architectures are the way they are, why API prices are the way they are, fundamentally also how why AI progress is the way it is.

start making sense.

And you need to understand the details to get there.

And you need a blackboard to understand the details.

So Reiner, thank you so much for doing this.

Yeah, very happy to be here.

Just a heads up, this is a lecture with graphs and equations and all that stuff.