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Dwarkesh Patel

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Fully autonomous robots are much closer than you think – Sergey Levine

Right.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Fully autonomous robots are much closer than you think – Sergey Levine

I had an example like this when I got a tour of the robots, by the way, at your office.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Fully autonomous robots are much closer than you think – Sergey Levine

So it was folding shorts.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Fully autonomous robots are much closer than you think – Sergey Levine

And I don't know if there was an episode like this in the –

Dwarkesh Podcast
Fully autonomous robots are much closer than you think – Sergey Levine

in the training set, but just for fun, I took one of the shorts and turned it inside out.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Fully autonomous robots are much closer than you think – Sergey Levine

And then it was able to understand that it first needed to get... So first of all, the grippers are just like this, like two limbs, or just a poseable finger and thumb-like thing.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Fully autonomous robots are much closer than you think – Sergey Levine

And it's actually shocking how much you can do with just that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Fully autonomous robots are much closer than you think – Sergey Levine

Yeah, it understood that it first needed to fold it inside out before folding it correctly.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Fully autonomous robots are much closer than you think – Sergey Levine

I mean, what's especially surprising about that is...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Fully autonomous robots are much closer than you think – Sergey Levine

It seems like this model only has one second of context.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Fully autonomous robots are much closer than you think – Sergey Levine

So as compared to these language models, which can often see the entire code base, and they're observing hundreds of thousands of tokens and thinking about them before outputting, and they're observing their own chain of thought for thousands of tokens before making a plan about how to code something up, your model is seeing one image of what happened in the last second.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Fully autonomous robots are much closer than you think – Sergey Levine

And it vaguely knows it's supposed to fold this short.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Fully autonomous robots are much closer than you think – Sergey Levine

And it's seeing the image of what's happened in the last second.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Fully autonomous robots are much closer than you think – Sergey Levine

And I guess it works.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Fully autonomous robots are much closer than you think – Sergey Levine

It's crazy that it will just see the last thing that happened and then keep executing on the plan.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Fully autonomous robots are much closer than you think – Sergey Levine

So fold it inside out, then fold it correctly.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Fully autonomous robots are much closer than you think – Sergey Levine

But it's shocking that a second of context is enough to execute on a minute-long task.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Fully autonomous robots are much closer than you think – Sergey Levine

Yeah, I'm curious why you made that choice in the first place and why it's possible to actually do tasks.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Fully autonomous robots are much closer than you think – Sergey Levine

If a human could only think ahead a second of memory and had to do physical work, I feel like that would just be impossible.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Fully autonomous robots are much closer than you think – Sergey Levine

And how physically will – so you have this like trilemma.