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Dwarkesh Patel

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12579 total appearances

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Dwarkesh Podcast
An audio version of my blog post, Thoughts on AI progress (Dec 2025)

They're not thinking about billions of human-like intelligences on a server, which can copy and merge all the learnings.

Dwarkesh Podcast
An audio version of my blog post, Thoughts on AI progress (Dec 2025)

And to be clear, I expect this, which is to say, I expect actual brain-like intelligences within the next decade or two, which is pretty fucking crazy.

Dwarkesh Podcast
An audio version of my blog post, Thoughts on AI progress (Dec 2025)

Sometimes people will say that the reason that AIs are more widely deployed right now across firms and already providing lots of value outside of coding is that technology takes a long time to diffuse.

Dwarkesh Podcast
An audio version of my blog post, Thoughts on AI progress (Dec 2025)

And I think this is Cope.

Dwarkesh Podcast
An audio version of my blog post, Thoughts on AI progress (Dec 2025)

I think people are using this Cope to gloss over the fact that these models just lack the capabilities that are necessary for broad economic value.

Dwarkesh Podcast
An audio version of my blog post, Thoughts on AI progress (Dec 2025)

If these models actually were like humans on a server, they'd diffuse incredibly quickly.

Dwarkesh Podcast
An audio version of my blog post, Thoughts on AI progress (Dec 2025)

In fact, they'd be so much easier to integrate and onboard than a normal human employee is.

Dwarkesh Podcast
An audio version of my blog post, Thoughts on AI progress (Dec 2025)

They could read your entire Slack and drive within minutes, and they could immediately distill all the skills that your other AI employees have.

Dwarkesh Podcast
An audio version of my blog post, Thoughts on AI progress (Dec 2025)

Plus, the hiring market for humans is very much like a lemons market, where it's hard to tell who the good people are beforehand, and then obviously hiring somebody who turns out to be bad is very costly.

Dwarkesh Podcast
An audio version of my blog post, Thoughts on AI progress (Dec 2025)

This is just not a dynamic that you would have to face or worry about if you're just spinning up another instance of a vetted HEI model.

Dwarkesh Podcast
An audio version of my blog post, Thoughts on AI progress (Dec 2025)

So for these reasons, I expect it's going to be much easier to diffuse AI labor into firms than it is to hire a person.

Dwarkesh Podcast
An audio version of my blog post, Thoughts on AI progress (Dec 2025)

And companies hire people all the time.

Dwarkesh Podcast
An audio version of my blog post, Thoughts on AI progress (Dec 2025)

If the capabilities were actually at HEI level, people would be willing to spend trillions of dollars a year buying tokens that these models produce.

Dwarkesh Podcast
An audio version of my blog post, Thoughts on AI progress (Dec 2025)

knowledge workers across the world cumulatively earn tens of trillions of dollars a year in wages.

Dwarkesh Podcast
An audio version of my blog post, Thoughts on AI progress (Dec 2025)

And the reason that labs are orders of magnitude off this figure right now is that the models are nowhere near as capable as human knowledge workers.

Dwarkesh Podcast
An audio version of my blog post, Thoughts on AI progress (Dec 2025)

Now, you might be like, look, how can the standard have suddenly become labs have to earn tens of trillions of dollars of revenue a year, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
An audio version of my blog post, Thoughts on AI progress (Dec 2025)

Like, until recently, people were saying, can these models reason?

Dwarkesh Podcast
An audio version of my blog post, Thoughts on AI progress (Dec 2025)

Do these models have common sense?

Dwarkesh Podcast
An audio version of my blog post, Thoughts on AI progress (Dec 2025)

Are they just doing pattern recognition?

Dwarkesh Podcast
An audio version of my blog post, Thoughts on AI progress (Dec 2025)

And obviously, AI bulls are right to criticize AI bears for repeatedly moving these goalposts.