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Dwarkesh Patel

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
15267 total appearances

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Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich โ€“ Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

There's no effect of natural selection.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich โ€“ Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

And so we see episodes like this where we don't see natural selection, but then there's

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich โ€“ Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

The Bronze Age apparently must have had an even stronger effect where the change in environment is even stronger than what we see from Africans in Africa then being migrated to the new world and then living under slavery.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich โ€“ Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

And the standard deviation here is how much the

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich โ€“ Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

polygenic score for the trait itself moves or?

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich โ€“ Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

Okay, so the effect here is huge then.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich โ€“ Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

Because if you're saying one standard deviation, a standard deviation above the median would be somebody in the 85th percentile.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich โ€“ Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

So you're saying that the effect of selection has been so strong that compared to 10,000 years ago versus now, the median has gone to the 85th percentile.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich โ€“ Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

And that's just like a huge effect over the last 10,000 years on something like intelligence or...

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich โ€“ Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

the thing that predicts household income or whatever.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich โ€“ Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

So these seem like, especially given that this is only 2% of the change in halo frequencies and then like the 98% is coming from migration.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich โ€“ Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

So then it's sort of stupendous to think about like, well, what is the impact of migration then?

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich โ€“ Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

If this alone can explain or is driving a standard deviation change in these kinds of qualities, at least among the kind of variation we see in the world today.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich โ€“ Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

Yeah.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich โ€“ Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

So there's this person who has a collective intelligence hypothesis, which is this idea that the selection for intelligence has actually been in the opposite direction.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich โ€“ Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

That as society has developed, there's been more specialization.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich โ€“ Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

If there's more specialization, each person only needs to understand a smaller and smaller thing.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich โ€“ Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

part of the world and therefore actually the ancients were much smarter than us and we've sort of evolved out in intelligence.

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich โ€“ Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

And your results seem to point in the opposite direction that although there's not been a selection in the last 2000 years as society has gotten more complicated, at least when society began,

Dwarkesh Podcast
David Reich โ€“ Why the Bronze Age was an inflection point in human evolution

there was more need for the kind of thing that predicts intelligence today.