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Dwarkesh Patel

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
14445 total appearances

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Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

When the plurality on a random council all have a plan and it's your plan, you effectively control the city.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

And so in that way, the Medici effectively control this lotteried system because they've guaranteed that the plurality in a situation that doesn't have a majority will always be them.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

But of course, there's a chance to that.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

And in 1432, 1430 and 1432, Cosimo has bad luck.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

And the lottery draws a lot of people who dislike him and doesn't draw any of his guys.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

And they immediately declare him a traitor to the state and arrest him and lock him in a tower.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

And he bribes his way out.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

And he offers the equivalent of about $300,000 to the guard outside the cell and $700,000 to the captain of the guard to smuggle him out of the tower.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

And he wrote in a letter later that they were the two most foolish men he'd ever met because he was Cosimo de Medici.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

He would happily have paid them tens of millions of dollars to let him out of there.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

But they weren't ambitious enough to think to ask for more than a few hundred thousand dollars.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

So he escapes.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

And then the next election, by gum, happened to elect entirely people who just loved Cosimo.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

And they invited him back to the city in triumph and they declared him father of the fatherland.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

And they arrested and persecuted all of his enemies who turned out to be guilty of tax evasion and all sorts of other things.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

And that was the moment that his grip tightened and he's like, I'm going to stop this.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

simply controlling a plurality and I'm going to start bribing the people who actually run the elections.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

And his famous quote about this is, it is dangerous to be rich and not powerful.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

And that you need the power to defend yourself in a situation like King of the Mountain, where when you're on top, everyone will try to knock you down.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

This is the system into which Machiavelli is born.