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Dwarkesh Patel

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Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

Be good.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

Send us letters informing us what's going on.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

When we have diplomatic needs to talk to the king, we're going to send letters to you and you're going to forward them.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

And if you're good, you get to come back.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

So being in exile is sort of being on probation, but also being entrusted with state stuff.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

That's not quite what they did with Machiavelli.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

With Machiavelli, they banished him to a hamlet in the middle of the Tuscan countryside near nothing important and said, go sit in the country and rot.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

And if you're good, we'll invite you back.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

What they expect, what everyone expects, is that Machiavelli will break that promise and leave because he's a well-known statesman and a scholar and a playwright and a historian.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

And there are dozens of cardinals in Rome and other cities that would love to employ him.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

Kings of England love employing Florentines to work for them as secretaries.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

Kings of Naples love employing Florentines to work for them as secretaries.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

He might go get a job tutoring the daughters of the Duke of Milan the way Francesco Fallelfo did when he was kicked out of Florence for opposing the Medici.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

There are lots of places that it's expected an exiled Florentine intellectual will go where he will have the ear of power and he will be able to exert influence.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

He will be a mover and shaker at

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

the court of Milan or the court of Naples or the court of England.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

Instead, when they say to Machiavelli, sit in the country and rot, this is a test, he passes the test and sits in the country faithfully and rots.

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

And if he had wanted to go be an intellectual power broker, the correct move is to run off to Rome, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

And say, I will give up the chance to go home the way Dante did, but I will be a Florentine in exile and I will write important things and I will live at the house of wealthy men who will support me and take me in

Dwarkesh Podcast
How cosplaying Ancient Rome led to the scientific revolution

and give me the ear of power and I will exert my influence in that way.