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Dwarkesh

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Dwarkesh Podcast
What Will Automated Firms Look Like?

And now Veo 2 is available in the Gemini app.

Dwarkesh Podcast
What Will Automated Firms Look Like?

You can try it by going to gemini.google.com, selecting it from the dropdown, and typing your own idea into the prompt bar.

Dwarkesh Podcast
What Will Automated Firms Look Like?

By the way, we made this whole video with Veo before we even started chatting with Google, so it was especially exciting that we could then have them as a sponsor.

Dwarkesh Podcast
What Will Automated Firms Look Like?

All right, back to the essay.

Dwarkesh Podcast
What Will Automated Firms Look Like?

The most profound difference between AI firms and human firms will be their evolvability, as Gwern Brandwin observes.

Dwarkesh Podcast
What Will Automated Firms Look Like?

The scale of difference between currently existing human firms and fully automated firms will be like the gulf in complexity between prokaryotes and eukaryotes.

Dwarkesh Podcast
What Will Automated Firms Look Like?

Prokaryotic organisms, such as bacteria, are relatively simple and have remained structurally similar for over 3 billion years.

Dwarkesh Podcast
What Will Automated Firms Look Like?

In contrast, the emergence of eukaryotic cells, which possess more complex internal structures like nuclei and organelles, enabled a dramatic leap in biological complexity.

Dwarkesh Podcast
What Will Automated Firms Look Like?

and gave rise to all the other astonishing organisms with trillions of cells working together tight-knits.

Dwarkesh Podcast
What Will Automated Firms Look Like?

This evolvability is also the key difference between AI and human firms.

Dwarkesh Podcast
What Will Automated Firms Look Like?

As Guerin points out, human firms simply cannot replicate themselves effectively.

Dwarkesh Podcast
What Will Automated Firms Look Like?

They're made of people, not code that can be copied.

Dwarkesh Podcast
What Will Automated Firms Look Like?

So would a fully automated company simply become the last company standing?

Dwarkesh Podcast
What Will Automated Firms Look Like?

Why would other firms even exist?

Dwarkesh Podcast
What Will Automated Firms Look Like?

Could the first business to automate everything just form a massive conglomerate and take over the entire economy?

Dwarkesh Podcast
What Will Automated Firms Look Like?

While internal planning can be more efficient than market competition in the short term, it needs to be balanced by some slower but unbiased external feedback.

Dwarkesh Podcast
What Will Automated Firms Look Like?

A company that grows too large risks having its internal goals drift away from market reality.

Dwarkesh Podcast
What Will Automated Firms Look Like?

That said, the balance may shift as AI systems improve.

Dwarkesh Podcast
What Will Automated Firms Look Like?

AI corporations will be more software-like, with perfect replication of successful subdivisions and faster feedback loops.

Dwarkesh Podcast
What Will Automated Firms Look Like?

And this internal planning system needs to be connected to some measure of real success or failure.