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But smoothed out, it does look like a very – I wish I had seen this recently, but I think it's like over the course of three years, it was a pretty constant rise up to some plateau.

I imagine it was a dynamic equilibrium and as many new people were coming in as old people were leaving.

Yeah.

I think that like with situational awareness, I don't know how much publicity Leopold put into it.

We're doing like pretty deliberate publicity.

We're going on your podcast.

I mean I think that's – I think you can either be the sort of person who can go on a Dworkish podcast and get the New York Times to write about you or you can do it organically the old-fashioned way which is very long.

So my friend Clara Collier, who's the editor of Asterisk Magazine, is working on something like this for AI blogging.

And her idea, which I think is good, is to have a fellowship.

I mean, I think Nick's thing was also a fellowship.

Yeah.

But the fellowship would be like there is an Asterisk AI blogging fellows blog or something like that.

Clara will edit your post, make sure that it's good, put it up there.

Yeah.

and she'll select many people who she thinks will be good at this.

She'll do all of the kind of courage-requiring work of being like, yes, your post is good.

I'm going to edit it now.

Now it's very good.

Now I'm going to put it on the blog.

And I think her hope is that, let's say,