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Dwarkesh

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

What do you mean, communicate the AI?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

Yeah.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

Well, I guess it's not even that, but I do think that is an important part of it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

The other big thing is I can't think of another discipline in human engineering and research where

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

The end artifact was made safer mostly through just thinking about how to make it safe, as opposed to why are airplane crashes per mile so much lower today than they were decades ago?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

Why is it so much harder to find a bug in Linux than it would have been decades ago?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

And I think it's mostly because these systems were deployed to the world.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

You noticed failures.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

Those failures were corrected and the systems became more robust.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

Now, I'm not sure why

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

AGI and superhuman intelligence would be any different, especially given, and I hope we're going to get to this.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

It seems like the harms of superintelligence are not just about like having some malevolent paper clipper out there, but it's just like, this is a really powerful thing and we don't even know how to conceptualize how people interact with it, what people will do with it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

And having gradual access to it seems like a better way to maybe spread out the impact of it and to help people prepare for it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

Okay, I see.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

So you're suggesting that the thing you're pointing out with superintelligence is not some finished

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

mind which knows how to do every single job in the economy because the way say the original i think open ai charter or whatever defines agi is like it can do every single job that every single thing a human can do you're proposing instead a mind which can learn to do any single every single job yes and that is super intelligence and then but once you have the learning algorithm and

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

it gets deployed into the world the same way a human laborer might join an organization.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

And it seems like one of these two things might happen.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

Maybe neither of these happens.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

One, this super efficient learning algorithm