Dwayne Kerrigan

He's really intelligent, really smart, tons of experience.

But he said to me, he's like, one of the key things he does when it comes to recruiting is he goes out and he hires somebody that can tell him how to do the job that he is just doing.

trying to fill the role for rather than hiring someone and we as leaders tell them how to do the job.

I mean, that fills our ego or it meets our need for significance or certainty or sometimes love and connection because we feel like we're training people or we're coaching people on certain things.

But honest truth is, is that the best people are the people who've been there and done that.

They've cut their experience on someone else's dime.

So it's really, really important to find somebody that has gone out and done what you want to do in the future.

The other thing is the hiring process.

What does your hiring process look like?

Is it a one and done interview?

Is it two interviews?

Who's involved in the process?

In some of our businesses, we'll get people that are in there doing the work to interview someone to make sure that they're a culture fit.

They may not be able to identify or have the skill set to be able to identify whether or not the person we're hiring has those skill sets.

They may not have that acumen from an interview experience standpoint.

But what they can do is determine pretty quickly if they like someone.

If their initial feeling about their energy or what they've done or how they've done it or how they react to certain things with some very easy coaching, you can just get a really strong opinion of somebody who's out in the field.

And it's like, hey, they have to work with this person.

I worked for a company once and the owner never hired one person.

It was always hire one.