Dwayne Kerrigan

So my understanding from my buddy who competed in it, I think he's competed at least once, if not twice.

I've got other friends who've done it too.

I mean, it's treacherous.

The elevations in that race is pretty massive.

So I got to think that sitting at the front of that bike coming down the hills in Hawaii has got to be somewhat nerve wracking.

But you're like, what, a foot off the ground?

Two feet off the ground?

Oh, okay.

I thought it was lower.

I saw pictures.

In my head, it was lower.

Yeah, and the lesson there for the listeners is constant and never-ending innovation is my takeaway.

Yeah, 100%.

Okay, I have to ask you guys.

Has there been a time where you're like, you guys have...

Without swearing, John, like, go after yourselves.

I'm leaving you or just leave me here or piss off.

Like, I'm dying to know.

And that to me, guys, like that story right there is I think what teared me up because I can feel myself getting emotional about it.

When I was reading and preparing for this podcast, that was what was hitting me so much was the humanity in what you guys are doing.