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Dylan Patel

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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

But as far as like, if the model gets better at each scale of hardware spend, I would say all the tech giants believe it.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

I believe it.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

I think a lot of people in the financial community are like, this is freaking scary.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

Because the moment it stopped, wherever you were on the wrong, right?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

If we went from $50 billion spend to $500 billion spend, well, that $500 billion spend is never gonna have ROI.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

It was one thing if 50 billion didn't have ROI, but now this 500 doesn't have ROI.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

It's a big problem.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

So anyways, one could think of it as diminishing returns because when you go from $50 billion of spend to $500 billion of spend, you only move up one tier of model capabilities in absence of major algorithmic improvements.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

I'm holding those sort of off to the side for now.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

But that iterative performance improvement in the model, it's like a six-year-old versus a 13-year-old maybe, right?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

The amount of work you can get a 13-year-old to do is actually quite valuable relative to a six-year-old.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

And the same applies to like a college intern versus someone who graduated and has even one year of work experience because there's a learning curve for kids coming out of college all the time.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

While it may be in order of magnitude more of compute, the amount of value, if you made a company full of high schoolers and you had to refresh them every six months so they didn't learn too much and become really good, it would be really hard to create a valuable company.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

The most you could do is dig trenches and do yard work, but then...

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

all the time these kids wouldn't even show up, right?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

Like as a function of like how valuable the business could you do if you had unlimited high schoolers that refreshed so they didn't build knowledge versus college students versus 25 to 30 year olds.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

The value of that business that you can build, even though incrementally it's just five years between each of them, it's a drastic value change.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

Depends on the domain, right?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

Like for software developers, like I think we're really pretty good.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

And that's where we're seeing the most value creation happen.