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Dylan Patel

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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

The timing is not exactly that, but they spend $50 billion on the data center, 35 goes into NVIDIA, NVIDIA's gross margin is 75%.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

So, you know, again, I'm gonna make it simple numbers.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

Let's say it's 10 and 40, 10 billion COGS, 40 billion revenue, $30 billion of gross profit.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

If we fix the numbers, it's effectively like half their gross profit from that deal is going directly to OpenAI in the form of equity investment.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

The 25% that's COGS, NVIDIA is paying for that.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

And then they keep the other half of the gross profit on their balance sheet or do buybacks, whatever they want to do with it.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

So NVIDIA is not necessarily like, they are like round tripping some of this.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

What effectively is happening is OpenAI gets the opportunity to pay for a big chunk of it in equity.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

And NVIDIA is lowering their prices without lowering their prices effectively.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

And they're getting ownership of a company.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

But NVIDIA comes out great because they're getting the CapEx dollars up front.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

So all they're really doing is they're saying half of my money that's in this, sure, it does make its way to me somehow.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

But in reality, I still made half of that gross profit.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

And the other half is equity in a company that may or may not be worth something, a company that may or may not be able to pay hundreds of billions of dollars of compute deals that they've signed, in which case they'd be bankrupt.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

So the thing I like to call it is tokenomics.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

I stumbled upon the word, actually, it's like a crypto world.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

You kill off crypto, finally, once and for all.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

So I'm trying to make tokenomics SEO direct to, you know, us talking about tokenomics and then hopefully you talking about tokenomics.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

Hopefully, like, everyone's using the word tokenomics.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.