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Dylan Patel

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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

So, you know, like we didn't get to that.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

I think we're early on non-text.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

Yeah, we're quite early on.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

And then the other angle is just because you've used the text doesn't mean you can't learn faster.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

You know, it's like take a classroom again.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

Like, you know, this is like Machiavellian.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

I don't even know if Machiavellian is the right word, but like you take a class, you give them all a book, you tell them to read it once and you test them all.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

It's like one kid's going to get 100 and one kid's going to get a 40, right?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

It's just the reality of life.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

And if you read the book out loud to them, the kid who got 100 might get a 30 and the kid who got a 40 might have got a 60, right?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

So there's like these different parameters.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

And when we talk about model architecture, the same thing happens there.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

So it's not like you stop training new models.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

It's not like you don't have algorithmic improvements or smarter kids, right?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

You know?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

So it's not like pre-training is done.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

It's the base of everything.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

So you want to keep having gains because any gains on pre-training, i.e.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

the model learns a little faster or the model's a little bit smaller for the same quality, feeds into the next stage, which is this whole post-training side, which will subsume the majority of the compute at some point.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

And inning-wise, are we in the second inning of that?