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Dylan Patel

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Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

Sure, they're like 30 years behind on jet engines or 20 years or 10 years, whatever it is, but they don't need to go outside of China for any of the materials besides like raw materials.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

Whereas like the US needs like titanium from here and like, you know, blah, blah, blah from there, right?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

And the same applies to their semiconductor ecosystem.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

Sure, the US and Taiwan and Korea are way ahead,

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

like three, four years.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

But then they also have the accumulated capital base of all of the existing equipment and all of the existing fabs.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

But they need to import from all these different places because it's a global supply chain.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

And so China is like much more concerned today about being insular than being the best in doing this like aggregation theory, which is sort of maybe what ChatGPT is kind of doing.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

I wouldn't say OpenAI is fully pilled on that view.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

There are also like a lot of people who view the like, oh, we're going to make AI that makes AI better, that makes AI better, that makes AI better and is AGI.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

The other view is like, you know, hey, we're going to make AI so much better that it can do software engineering and we have trillions of dollars of value.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

China doesn't fully believe in those things yet, I think, on a total basis.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

But because they're so talented and they have an insular supply chain

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

Yes, they purchase some stuff from the foreign world.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

They rent stuff.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

They have ByteDance, who's, I think, the third largest user of GPUs in the world after OpenAI and probably Meta, although ByteDance may be bigger than Meta, the third largest user of GPUs in the world, or second, maybe, even ByteDance is.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

They have all the other major Chinese tech companies.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

They have all of these amazing graduates.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

They don't have a talent war.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Dylan Patel - Inside the Trillion-Dollar AI Buildout - [Invest Like the Best, EP.442]

Companies don't poach from each other.