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Dylan Patel

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Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella โ€” How Microsoft is preparing for AGI

You look at all these various technologies, it's deployed everywhere.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella โ€” How Microsoft is preparing for AGI

The thing that is quite unique, and Microsoft and other companies have grown elsewhere, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella โ€” How Microsoft is preparing for AGI

They're building data centers in Europe and in India and in all these other, you know, in Southeast Asia and in Latin and Africa, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella โ€” How Microsoft is preparing for AGI

All of these different places you're building capacity.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella โ€” How Microsoft is preparing for AGI

But this seems quite different, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella โ€” How Microsoft is preparing for AGI

Today, the political aspect of technology, of compute, the US administration didn't care about the dot-com bubble, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella โ€” How Microsoft is preparing for AGI

It seems like the US administration, as well as every other administration around the world, cares a lot about AI.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella โ€” How Microsoft is preparing for AGI

and the question is you know we're in a sort of a bipolar world at least with us and china but europe and and india and all these other countries are are saying no actually we're gonna have sovereign ai as well how does microsoft navigate you know the difference of the 90s where it's like there's one country in the world that matters right it's america and we do our companies sell everywhere and therefore microsoft benefits massively to a world where it is bipolar where hey microsoft can't just necessarily have the right to win all of europe or india or

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella โ€” How Microsoft is preparing for AGI

Singapore, there's actually sovereign AI efforts.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella โ€” How Microsoft is preparing for AGI

What is your thought process here and how do you think about this?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella โ€” How Microsoft is preparing for AGI

The thing about this is that this doesn't exist for semiconductors, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella โ€” How Microsoft is preparing for AGI

Exactly.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella โ€” How Microsoft is preparing for AGI

All refrigerators, cars have chips made in Taiwan.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella โ€” How Microsoft is preparing for AGI

It didn't exist until now.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella โ€” How Microsoft is preparing for AGI

America, you know, if Taiwan is cut off, there are no more cars, there are no more refrigerators.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella โ€” How Microsoft is preparing for AGI

TSMC Arizona is not replacing any real fraction of the production.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella โ€” How Microsoft is preparing for AGI

Like, it is...

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella โ€” How Microsoft is preparing for AGI

The sovereignty is a bit of like a scam, if you will, right?

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella โ€” How Microsoft is preparing for AGI

I mean, it's worthwhile having it.

Dwarkesh Podcast
Satya Nadella โ€” How Microsoft is preparing for AGI

It's important to have it, but it's not real sovereignty, right?