E.J. Dionne Jr.

And you have the kind of, I think, deterioration we're seeing in Trump himself.

Then you do have somebody who can't apologize for a racist video like that and who continues to.

to act in this way.

And, you know, there was some Republican pushback against that video, but what's really striking is Republicans are still petrified of opposing this.

And what you haven't seen is enough of the center right in the United States, save it's an exception, God bless him, but enough of the center right in politics in the United States is willing to say enough of this.

And maybe that's a product of a two-party system, but it's a real problem.

What I just wanted to say, I brought a prop in today, David.

It's your second book, I believe, on Paradise Drive.

And I brought it in partly because...

Of the inscription you wrote, this was published back in 2004, so 22 years ago.

And we had been talking about politics together in various venues, but mostly with Robert, thank goodness, for a long time.

And you inscribed it to my good friend EJ, someday in the future, we will agree on everything you said.

Yeah.

And I contemplated this.

And the fact is, we do agree on more now than we did 22 years ago.

I think that's true.

We had certain fundamentals in common.

We both love Reinhold Niebuhr.

And I think that's a tribute to the fact that you have responded to events, and that's why we agree on more.

Now, thank goodness, and we're probably both happy about this, we do not agree on everything, and we still like to argue with each other.