Eamon Dillon

And they, you know, they, I suppose, tried to keep as arm's length as possible in that sense, but did it by this kind of...

Yeah.

And they had, and they were being supplied, they were being supplied, they had supply contacts as it was put in Dublin, the Midlands and Limerick.

So they were well connected in that sense.

So they were obviously shopping around for the best deals or wherever the

I suppose the best product or the most, I suppose the cheapest product might be what they were after.

But whatever was available, they'd switch obviously between different suppliers for different drugs as well.

And of course, these people at the very bottom of the gangland food chain were being sent out to do it and were explicitly told to do exactly what they were ordered to do or they would face consequences and their families would face consequences as well.

I don't know.

I'd say a lot of it depends on, I suppose, the personality of those involved.

So if you have, say, somebody controlling street dealing who is big and violent, they're probably going to go that way because they find it easy.

Other people might have to find other ways of motivating a sales force and maybe take a step back from the actual street dealing themselves and possibly lose out on a cut of their profits because they're trading it off with someone else.

Yeah, I mean, like you would imagine paying your workers is probably the best way to do it.

But I mean, I'd say finding good staff is difficult, like in this business that you're not necessarily going to be able to find someone who's competent, who's going to turn up on time and work, you know, day in, day out.

I mean, there was like Gary Ward is, it emerged like, you know, he's in Wandsworth prison in the UK.

He basically absconded in February 2004 when he was due for sentence for making threats to kill, assault and intimidation.

This was after the raids, yeah.

But this goes back, this is one of these people that he'd victimized, who was forced into doing kind of his dirty work for him.

And that would have gone back as far as 2020.

I think the local drug squad had them under surveillance and they saw this man handing over a set of car keys to Gary Ward in the University Hospital car park.