Eamon Dillon

Yeah.

And then the mitigation should kick in after that.

Then there'd be remission, so he'd serve 12.

And then obviously he may have served some time in Dubai.

Yeah, well, that actually came up as well.

You know, they said they'd like it backdated as well, which means he'd serve 11 years.

And it was mentioned that, you know, well, he should get extra credit for Dubai because it's particularly onerous conditions.

But that was actually countered then by Dominic McGinn, counsel for the state, who says, well...

If he spent time there, it was pretty much his own fault because he resisted the extradition.

So as for that, not to be taken into account.

Yeah, what happened was, now they weren't read out in court, but there was a number of testimonials made available to the court.

So these were basically handed to the three, the

the three judges and they're also going to consider all the transcripts from Mondays and you know so they're going to read through everything again and they'll come to their decision so they're asked to take into account these testimonials and one of them was from his mother which we heard in it she speaks of you know as any mother would as you know from her point of view how he was very much involved in the soccer scene underage he was very talented he suffered the loss of his father and he'd been very close to him and he used to attend all these matches

and that he is the father of two girls and a committed father.

Now he's father-in-law as well,

acknowledged that he was this, you know, McGovern was with his daughter for the last 18 years and always presented as a caring and generous father.

And then his partner, who he knows, Anita Freeman, her name wasn't mentioned in court.

And she apparently in this testimonial talks about the history of the relationship, about the turmoil in their lives.

Now, it is said that, you know, they totally acknowledge that the Kirwins are the victim in this.

They're not the victims.