Ed Calderon

But then there's something inside you where that kind of, those opportunities come.

Like with a police officer, where you realize you can just pay a little bit of money and get out of a thing.

And then you realize you can pay a little bit of money or do a favor to get your kids in a better school or something like that.

Yeah.

But there comes opportunities where you – where, all right, if I do this little thing, I can make – I can get a huge promotion.

I can get a huge increase in my power.

I can get a lot of money.

And something inside you says no.

Yeah.

That's not right.

And I wonder what that is.

Because like –

Yeah, because it feels different than the legal systems within which you operate.

There's some kind of basic human integrity, human decency.

I wonder if that's constructed or it's always there.

Again, nature versus nurture.

What does it take to be a man, the lieutenant colonel, who maintains integrity after assassination attempts?

Is it possible for a normal human to do that, or again, is it genetic?

Money aside, so like a Hummer aside, how much of a motivator is fear?

It's a big one.