Ed Calderon

But then what takes its place?

Somewhere in Mexico, people were growing poppies and they said, well, let's add a little bit of fentanyl into these.

very weak poppy yields of heroin and see what it does.

And it kicked.

Oh, so that was the source of it, that the heroin was weak?

These hillsides have been leached for years from growing weed on them.

And also weed legalization in parts like California led to interesting phenomenons.

Some of these fields were no longer profitable, so they would switch to poppy.

And one thing that people don't realize is that a lot of these things get tested out first in the markets in Mexico, because Mexico has giant drug markets.

And that are fought over and people will try this, you know, try this.

Oh boy.

It's like trial samples that they hand out the supermarket.

Oh no.

So at some point in the past, somebody down in Jalisco probably tried the first load of Mexican fentanyl loaded heroin.

Somebody somewhere out there probably did the first hit and was like,

Or died.

Yeah, but it was a hit here, though.

It was a giant hit here in the U.S.

Is it as big a problem in Mexico as it is in the United States?

No.