Ed Elson

But I think the big concern that seems super likely to me is...

the value is accrued to the people who own the AI and that, yes, maybe some of us might be getting some value out of using AI, but we won't be the ones who own it.

And it will only make wealth inequality even worse, which could have all of its own impacts.

Do you worry about that?

I do worry about that.

What kinds of policies or what do you think that would look like?

This is my first question.

And then my second question is, as someone who cares about that, are you a pariah in the tech industry?

Because from my understanding, there is a feeling of if you're talking about policy and regulation, then you're a Luddite and you're just trying to hold AI back and you're just scared.

So...

I guess, how do you think about those two questions?

Am I a pariah for talking about that stuff?

I wish I had it, but I know I've studied it.

I know what you're talking about.

I wish I had them there.

Just looking at the future of Cohere, reportedly Cohere is looking to go public.

I don't know if you can talk about that, but that's what we've been reading.

Can you tell us about those plans?

We're back with First Time Founders.

We've discussed this sort of the decline of the IPO on our markets podcast a little bit.