Ed Elson

Patrick, I mean, you wrote a book on Apple's relationship to China, and it seems as though China is a big part of the story now.

I mean, their supply chains are incredibly entrenched in China.

They have this huge consumer base in China.

It also relates to the company's relationship to the president.

I mean, there's all of this...

geopolitical crap that you have to deal with in that role now.

It's not just about making cool products and selling them and talking about them on a stage with a turtleneck.

What do you make of what his approach will likely be when it comes to China and also when it comes to politics in general?

What's on his plate here?

Just to go with that, is that the right move?

Does Apple need a cowboy right now?

I mean, it sounds from what you're saying and for what Tripp said, I mean, Tripp's book is about Apple losing its soul.

Maybe that's what the company needs.

That tells you something.

That is an important detail.

I want to return to China for a moment.

What's he going to do about China?

Are we going to see him...

Yeah.

Trip, what do you think success for John Ternus would look like?