Ed Elson

Also, tariffs.

and what that has done to the supply chain.

And now here we are again with this war in Iran.

I guess my question to you, do you think that this is a temporary shock that we will kind of move through over the maybe short to medium term?

Or have supply chains just structurally become more difficult?

Is this kind of issue something that's here to stay?

It's a really interesting point.

I guess I'm wondering, as the CEO of one of the biggest companies that works exactly in this space,

What does that mean for you?

Like, how do you change your strategy in a world where you can't take globalization and free and unfettered trade for granted?

And you do have to start thinking about geopolitics, about violence, about war.

I mean, if we're talking about cannons on ships and you're saying that Europe needs to think about that again for the first time since before the war, before the World War I or World War II, like, what does that mean for you?

Okay, Ryan Peterson, CEO of Flexport.

Ryan, really appreciate it.

Thank you.

Yeah, my pleasure.

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