Ed Helms

And this is why we see so many politicians emerge that everyone's kind of shaking their heads like, how did this guy get nominated? How did this lady get there? Like, that seems crazy. Well, it's because like the most hardcore fervent Partisans are the ones nominating those people. So you brought up before this sort of question about the media environment.

You're saying that more level headed people will reach higher levels of government and they will be the mouthpieces that we see on the media. And that more measured kind of dialogue will have a cultural impact on all of us. Absolutely.

You're saying that more level headed people will reach higher levels of government and they will be the mouthpieces that we see on the media. And that more measured kind of dialogue will have a cultural impact on all of us. Absolutely.

How do you change those incentives?

How do you change those incentives?

And that's one of those things, like... That is such a no-brainer, right? And yet we're in this feedback loop where the people that are making those rules are the people that benefit from – the existence of gerrymandering. So what then becomes the way that citizens can make those changes or force our representatives in government to make those changes?

And that's one of those things, like... That is such a no-brainer, right? And yet we're in this feedback loop where the people that are making those rules are the people that benefit from – the existence of gerrymandering. So what then becomes the way that citizens can make those changes or force our representatives in government to make those changes?

Yeah. And I think I don't I think a lot of people don't realize like how much power citizens can have in that way, that what ballot initiatives can do and that they're really they are really just initiatives from the citizenry. They're not it's not a that doesn't have it's not a political process. It's something that goes citizens initiate and it goes before voters.

Yeah. And I think I don't I think a lot of people don't realize like how much power citizens can have in that way, that what ballot initiatives can do and that they're really they are really just initiatives from the citizenry. They're not it's not a that doesn't have it's not a political process. It's something that goes citizens initiate and it goes before voters.

And so things like gerrymandering, which no politician is incentivized. Some might have the sort of moral backbone to to to back it up, but they're not incentivized to fix gerrymandering because they're all benefiting from it. So, yeah. So it's it is it is up to us and represent us as seeing a lot of success with ballot initiatives.

And so things like gerrymandering, which no politician is incentivized. Some might have the sort of moral backbone to to to back it up, but they're not incentivized to fix gerrymandering because they're all benefiting from it. So, yeah. So it's it is it is up to us and represent us as seeing a lot of success with ballot initiatives.

Yeah. What are some others?

Yeah. What are some others?

All right. Tell us about that.

All right. Tell us about that.

So I will explain. Is that right? Australia has used ranked choice voting in all of their major political elections? That's just how they do it. Yeah. I did not realize that. That's amazing. Yeah.

So I will explain. Is that right? Australia has used ranked choice voting in all of their major political elections? That's just how they do it. Yeah. I did not realize that. That's amazing. Yeah.

So it's really interesting the amount of misinformation and disinformation that's out there about ranked choice voting because a lot of entrenched power on both sides of the political spectrum realize that it's a shakeup for them.

So it's really interesting the amount of misinformation and disinformation that's out there about ranked choice voting because a lot of entrenched power on both sides of the political spectrum realize that it's a shakeup for them.

So your incentive is to temper your message and not cater to the extremes. Totally. I mean, how much more chill would our world be if elected officials felt a need to speak to a larger audience?