Ed Helms

Right.

It's done.

Again, this was my understanding when I read this book.

And that is a much more terrifying outcome

when you really think about it, than a detonation, you know, slightly above the surface in like Chicago, for example, which is the premise of House of Dynamite, which just came out, you know, the Catherine Bigelow film, because ultimately you see the fragility of our entire system, which is based on electronic infrastructure.

You know, not only is our power grid, all of our information systems, we really don't have, you know, paper-based information system backups for most

things at this point in time, everything would fall apart.

Your food system, your refrigeration systems, your medical systems, your utility systems, you'd be back to the Stone Age.

This is Blade Runner 2, right?

There was, I believe, a nuclear setback or something like that.

There was an information dark age in Blade Runner 2049 that they reference.

And they're back to paper...

Yes, as a protective measure.

And I believe in Dune.

I'm going to get this wrong.

Somebody in your audience correct me.

I think Frank Herbert, the way he describes their technology in Dune is like a different technological branch than the computerized systems that we used.

I don't know if that's because of...

Any sort of reference to EMPs, et cetera, but it's just, again, it's an example of a different way of creating information systems than what we've relied on.

It's wild to think about.