Ed Helms

I love the music, like very sort of on a superficial level.

It just makes me feel good.

But there's also something about it that feels connected to an earlier time and to like a deeper sort of historical meaning.

And I wonder if that's true for you because the Avett Brothers sound is so rooted in so many of these great old music traditions.

Amen.

Well said.

This is a cool episode today.

You obviously have a deep knowledge of sort of colonial and post-independence America.

You're going to have some room to flex today.

Because we're dipping into a great snafu right in the pre-American Revolution pressure cooker.

We're heading to British-run Virginia, where a Scottish aristocrat with elite nepo baby energy, John Murray, the fourth Earl of Dunmore, a.k.a.

Lord Dunmore, was serving as the crown-appointed governor.

while the whispers of rebellion were slowly building into a roar.

And in true snafu fashion, our Lord Dunmore managed to take a tense situation and just absolutely douse it with kerosene with a spectacularly ill-timed proclamation that fully supercharged Revolutionary War fervor up and down the colonies.

Bob, are you ready to snafu?

I am ready to snafu.

All right.

Now, does Lord Dunmore set off any alarm bells for you?

Yes.

Lord Dunmore is the crown appointed governor of the colony Virginia.