Ed Helms

And they were very afraid that all these workers would not be able to have children, and Jimmy Carter had four very healthy children.

He's a tough guy.

Yeah, yes.

Give it up for Jimmy Carter.

Those are some of my favorite live moments is when one person claps and nobody chimes in.

And it's just an awkward, and then you go, oh, did you feel like I should pull back?

Nobody's joining.

Oh, she's not even acknowledging that I'm talking to her.

What are some patterns that you observed and lessons studying snafus?

The...

Okay, so the... Well, one of the things that... I don't think this is something that we sort of culturally would say we learned from this book, but the book reiterates it in a very powerful way, which is that we just don't learn from history at all, which is so sad and dumb.

We're so dumb.

And we just do the dumbest stuff.

But I do think there is, like, a...

a positive takeaway from really digging into these snafus.

The more you look into these really dumb or horrifying, crazy events from history,

It's very easy just when we're in this moment like we're in right now, and this I think applies whatever your political stripes are, wherever you fall on the sort of conservative, liberal spectrum, this moment that we're in feels...

volatile it feels like it feels unstable it feels uh a little like you know like we're polarized and there's a just tremendous uncertainty about the future which is just unsettling makes us anxious

When we look back at crazy things in the past, it's actually kind of nice to be reminded that we've been there before.

Like, people have been terrified lots of times in the past.