Ed Husain

And that's not the way of being Muslim.

Your loyalty is to your nation state and you put the country first and then you put whatever community you belong to.

And we belong to multiple communities, plural.

As a professor here at

georgetown and columbia i have my kind of academic community but i have other book communities and sure my faith community is central to that but it's not my first line of public defense so that's why i think you know what's going on in britain is really worrying that you you can't take a position on this without being cast as an outsider in your own so-called community which bolsters the problem

Yeah, and therefore there's a response to that.

The response is that ordinary people are sick and tired across the UK of being told that your kids in a school full of Muslims can't draw human images because it's somehow forbidden.

that you know that in parts of the nhs that you've got to cover your your your arms and if you're a nurse you can't show parts because it's frowned upon that the postman is is a muslim postman the bank is dominated by muslim clerks that you know the the uber drivers are all all muslims and parts of dewsbury and oldham and manchester and keithley and east london and luton and these are prominent parts of the uk they've changed they've changed beyond recognition

My ancestors came originally from Yemen to India.

From India, my father came to the UK in 1953.

He didn't want to come and see a UK changed.

He came to the UK for what it was, and he wanted to see the UK retain its own identity with its pluralism and its beautiful countryside.

My friends now,

both family in Yemen, family in Saudi Arabia, family in the UAE, are all terrified of coming to those parts of the UK and terrified of going to London because they no longer feel safe.

So this concern about immigration, both legal and illegal, that then consolidates Islamism, isn't just a concern shared by ordinary British folk.

in pubs and where else, it's just lots of Muslims and others are feeling the same problem, that this is not the country that we want for our children.

Someone showed the image of the Prophet Muhammad from Charlie Hebdo magazine as an illustration, as a teaching point, and that poor teacher's been in hiding for the last five years.

And how is that possible that showing a news agenda, a news item, leads to a pupil talking about it at home in passing, and then their parents organize mass demonstrations?

The problem now is worse than it is in Pakistan.

That's tens of thousands of members represented by this union.