Ed Ludlow

And in January in particular, there's two kind of, again, case studies of regulatory scrutiny, right, of two specific incidences.

I think it's important, like, for both of them, I take time in putting it to you and explain it to you, but in the case of the Santa Monica incident, for example, a Waymo vehicle struck or collided with a child, but the system detected the child

It breaks sharply.

And at the point that the impact was made, it was a speed of single digits miles per hour, blue six.

It had been traveling at 17.

So in that instance, the the system worked, but a probe was opened.

Just would you reflect on on that?

But also, you know, my my interpretation of what Waymo's.

publicly stated about this is that you actually kind of welcome the opportunity to open up the system to the regulators.

Let them look at it.

Separately, safety investigators are looking at the issue of how the Waymo interacts with parked school buses.

This seems to be sort of a separate technical challenge.

What is that about?

Why is it that the Waymo system...

has to, or I guess struggles with, is the headline that came out, but with a parked vehicle of that size in a school zone, of course, where you also have mixed foot traffic of children in particular.

If we call that an edge case interaction with the school bus, that software fix that you talked about, is it a total fix?

In other words, does Waymo believe it's now solved that technical challenge?

there was a big sort of technological development, which was with Genie 3, you know, the use of simulation.

How much has that kind of accelerated the technology development side of what Waymo's doing of late?

Waymo has always talked about safety in the context of redundancy, right?