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Ed Ludlow

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Bloomberg Tech
OpenAI Raises $110B from Amazon, Nvidia, Others

It's the prices of the memory, right?

Bloomberg Tech
OpenAI Raises $110B from Amazon, Nvidia, Others

And why we keep saying, I mean, the prices of the memory that has shot up up to even 300% from what they were last year, and they're continuing to go higher.

Bloomberg Tech
OpenAI Raises $110B from Amazon, Nvidia, Others

Memory that used to contribute to about 20% of the smartphone bomb cost is now,

Bloomberg Tech
OpenAI Raises $110B from Amazon, Nvidia, Others

Anywhere, you know, tripling that.

Bloomberg Tech
OpenAI Raises $110B from Amazon, Nvidia, Others

So imagine a smartphone that is below $100.

Bloomberg Tech
OpenAI Raises $110B from Amazon, Nvidia, Others

If the memory cost used to be $15, $20, and that's tripled, it's essentially making below $100, $150 smartphones uneconomical to make anymore.

Bloomberg Tech
OpenAI Raises $110B from Amazon, Nvidia, Others

So those OEMs, and there are a lot of, you know, Android OEMs operating in that space.

Bloomberg Tech
OpenAI Raises $110B from Amazon, Nvidia, Others

with majority of their portfolio, some with 90% of the portfolio below that, those are the ones that are at extreme risk.

Bloomberg Tech
OpenAI Raises $110B from Amazon, Nvidia, Others

Not to say that anyone is immune, even the larger players like Apple and Samsung are going to face higher memory prices, but at least they are able to secure the supply.

Bloomberg Tech
OpenAI Raises $110B from Amazon, Nvidia, Others

And when they get the supply, or at least majority of it, they can afford those higher prices, right?

Bloomberg Tech
OpenAI Raises $110B from Amazon, Nvidia, Others

Because their devices have larger margins.

Bloomberg Tech
OpenAI Raises $110B from Amazon, Nvidia, Others

It's really those lower-end Android players

Bloomberg Tech
OpenAI Raises $110B from Amazon, Nvidia, Others

that are already operating on razor-thin margins that are simply not going to be able to make those phones, those below $150 phones.

Bloomberg Tech
OpenAI Raises $110B from Amazon, Nvidia, Others

You know, I would, and I think I said that earlier to someone that we are, you know, this is going to be a time of like survival of the fittest where the, of course, the larger players are going to be able to secure their supply and leverage their, you know, their margins to be able to absorb some of the costs.

Bloomberg Tech
OpenAI Raises $110B from Amazon, Nvidia, Others

But we're, you know, we always see, right, at times of crisis is when the biggest innovations come out, right?

Bloomberg Tech
OpenAI Raises $110B from Amazon, Nvidia, Others

So,

Bloomberg Tech
OpenAI Raises $110B from Amazon, Nvidia, Others

You know, we're curious to see and we've already hearing of some of the lower OEMs either resorting to use devices to get the RAM from that or, you know, and memory from older phones.

Bloomberg Tech
OpenAI Raises $110B from Amazon, Nvidia, Others

But, you know, we still don't think it'll be enough to avert the drop that we're seeing.

Bloomberg Tech
OpenAI Raises $110B from Amazon, Nvidia, Others

The other strategy and mitigation strategy that they're thinking about or going to leverage is that they're going to try to move up in price segments.

Bloomberg Tech
OpenAI Raises $110B from Amazon, Nvidia, Others

Right.