Ed Ludlow

We're still waiting to see what happens if the Pentagon moves forward with the threat as leveled

by Pete Hegseth on Friday, and I think there's just generally a lot of uncertainty about how broad the impact will be on its business relationships.

As Anthropic was labeled a supply chain risk by the US government at the end of last week, OpenAI did its own deal with the Pentagon, right?

And Sam Altman, the CEO of OpenAI, came out publicly and talked about how that was rushed and handled in a sloppy fashion.

Our latest reporting is based on an all-hands within OpenAI yesterday afternoon.

What was said, what do we need to know?

Yeah, I mean, he repeated some of that same rhetoric to employees during his real first chance to address their concerns and reiterated the concerns that they might have been too hasty in announcing this deal on Friday, which might have made them seem more opportunistic.

He stressed that OpenAI and the employees there are very much empowered to kind of share their expertise about how to best use their AI models, what their limitations and opportunities are.

But he also stressed that it is not OpenAI's place to basically weigh in on operational decisions from the Pentagon, by which he meant

Maybe employees might disagree with what's happening in Iran or with the raid in Venezuela, or they might agree with one and not the other.

It is not their place to tell the Pentagon how to behave on that matter.

Bloomberg's Seth Figgeman, thank you very much.

Let's discuss the possible ramifications of a fallout between Anthropic and the Pentagon.

Jennifer Huddleston is a senior fellow in technology policy at the Cato Institute, and you wrote at length about this.

A moment ago said that...

Anthropic had been labeled a supply chain risk by the US government.

You go a little bit of a step further and say that they've been blacklisted, essentially, and that there will be ramifications to that.

Please take it from that.

In your paper, you cite the great Albus Dumbledore and you say, as he did at the end of the Philosopher's Stone or Sorcerer's Stone, if you're in America, it takes a great deal of bravery to stand up to our enemies, but just as much to stand up to our friends.

Why did you invoke Albus Dumbledore and what are you trying to say there?