Ed Straw

So if anyone wants to watch along while listening, it's a good way because you see all the onboards, all the externals, and you can see all those relative movements.

Yeah, he certainly did.

And unusually for Helmut Marco, I think he was aware of the risk of doing that because my memory of how that all happened is there were a few of us meandering around and we spotted Marco and he'd actually unusually refused to talk.

But then Will Buxton was there with a camera.

It's much, much harder if there's a TV there with a camera.

So Will stopped him and then a few of us joined the scrum.

So I think Marco genuinely was trying not to speak to anyone because he knew that if he spoke to someone, what happened would happen.

So there was a little... Unusually for him, there was a thing in the back of his mind that he didn't want to do it.

But, yeah, Will had got in his way.

And then, of course, once he'd started... There's some people like that who the only way to stop them saying the things they shouldn't is to not let them speak.

Most can just kind of get through it and not say what they shouldn't say.

But there are some who just can't do that.

And...

Helmut Marko, he was trying to be a little bit, he was trying to be slightly careful, but he just wasn't.

And that really did fan the flames.

And ultimately, it underlines the whole strangeness of the situation because what happened on track hadn't been handled and managed well because there was misunderstanding about what was going to happen and messages weren't passed on to Webber that should have been, but also we were in the team orders banner and all these things going on.

So you've got all of that happening.

So first up, it's not been managed well.

And then secondly, you've got this whole scenario with Marco, who ultimately had what was described to me by somebody in the thick of that situation.

It's quite a paternal attitude to Vettel.