Ed Straw

And as a footnote, that chassis did return later in the season and Webber used it and I think he won in that car.

So, OK, you can patch it up and make fixes.

But just to underline the fact that it was the old psychological trick, yeah, it did later win races.

But I don't think Vettel used it again.

um now you could argue that that was just giving the bad chassis to weber but i don't think it was about that it was it's the it's i was gonna say it's the oldest trick in the book but obviously uh chassis in that sense have only been around for a certain amount of time but uh it's always that that thing of people thinking there's something wrong with the car they can't get to the bottom of is always there there are times when there is something i can think of times where there were bonding failures and that kind of thing that weren't picked up but in this case yeah it was uh it was the the psychological games

Yeah, there was a degree of surprise because you have to remember that scene was in a bit of a mess because they'd had technical problems as well.

They'd had wind tunnel trouble, so they'd re-kitted their wind tunnel, etc.

And then there'd been all the fallout from Singapore.

Yeah, they're not really Renault anymore by this point, are they?

Exactly, yeah.

So, so much has changed there.

And I remember when Kubica signed there, there were other options.

Williams was another good option as well.

And you sort of thought, is that the right

decision to make and uh no kibitz was absolutely on the money there and yeah he'd really made a strong impression though and the team had kind of got itself onto an even keel right from the start in bahrain actually where if memory serves i don't think he got a good result but he qualified decently and could have qualified actually a little bit better so even on their lesser tracks the car was decent and on places like monaco and then later in the season suzuka etc it could be really really mega so yeah kibitz uh

really showed what he could do there because he had that experience that he hadn't had when he'd come into BMW Sauber.

And he was really, at that point, the kibitzer who knew what he wanted and was really pushing his team in a way that would be really annoying if he wasn't so good.

And still slightly, it can be slightly annoying when...

Even when a driver's that good, but Kubica still does this to this day because he really, he's the guy who will push on every single thing that he thinks, right, this is not right.

This should be this way.