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Ed Zitron

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Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Fake Bomb Detector Grift That Killed Hundreds

And this week, we are telling the story of a fake bomb detector that wound up getting a shitload of people killed thanks to the ideomotor effect and how that's weirdly relevant to our current moment in American culture, AI, all this good stuff.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Fake Bomb Detector Grift That Killed Hundreds

To talk with me about that, Ed Zitron.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Fake Bomb Detector Grift That Killed Hundreds

Ed, welcome back to the show.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Fake Bomb Detector Grift That Killed Hundreds

Thanks for having me.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Fake Bomb Detector Grift That Killed Hundreds

Now, Ed, you're the host of the Better Offline podcast.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Fake Bomb Detector Grift That Killed Hundreds

And how are you feeling about the ideomotor effect and people being able to know what's real?

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Fake Bomb Detector Grift That Killed Hundreds

I'm amazed by Clever Hans.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Fake Bomb Detector Grift That Killed Hundreds

I think Clever Hans is a hero who was unfairly eaten.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Fake Bomb Detector Grift That Killed Hundreds

By German soldiers after he was murdered in World War I. They were very unfair to clever Hans.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Fake Bomb Detector Grift That Killed Hundreds

I do.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Fake Bomb Detector Grift That Killed Hundreds

He's a smart, smartest horse.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Fake Bomb Detector Grift That Killed Hundreds

It was just desperation and not a punishment, but it does in the articles read a little bit like because they found out he wasn't really smart, they sent him off to die.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Fake Bomb Detector Grift That Killed Hundreds

You were a fraud, Hans.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Fake Bomb Detector Grift That Killed Hundreds

Oh, man.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Fake Bomb Detector Grift That Killed Hundreds

I actually drop better when I'm high.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Fake Bomb Detector Grift That Killed Hundreds

It heightens my senses, calms me down.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Fake Bomb Detector Grift That Killed Hundreds

If anything, I'm more careful.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Fake Bomb Detector Grift That Killed Hundreds

Honestly, it just helps me focus.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Fake Bomb Detector Grift That Killed Hundreds

So we ended last episode by introducing the gopher, a gag gift that claimed to help you locate lost golf balls using the magic of the ideomotor effect into tricking people into thinking it was not an empty plastic box with an antenna.

Behind the Bastards
Part Two: The Fake Bomb Detector Grift That Killed Hundreds

If you read the fine print at the end of those magazine ads that Sophie displayed last episode, you'll see that the manufacturer bragged that the gopher was totally shockproof with solid state construction and no moving parts.